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Episode 37 - Shadow / Listening to Fear (feat. Michael Holland)


No good deed goes unpunished, and so Michael Holland pays for being such a great guest last week, where we got to discuss one (maybe two?) of the best episodes in the entire series. His penance? He’s back with me again, which is perhaps punishment enough, but in fact he’s here to talk about Buffy the Vampire Slayer episodes 508, “Shadow” and 509, “Listening to Fear.” In the former he’s forced to endure the worst CGI snake demon the show ever conjures up, and in the latter he struggles to survive the show’s embarrassing X-Files envy.


(That’ll teach him to be so smart and fun, huh?)


Next: PhD student, Slayage contributor, and fellow Spuffy fanatic Jessica Hautsch returns to discuss episodes 510, “Into the Woods” and 511, “Triangle.”



Run Time: 01:25:50

00:00:55 - Intro / Guest

00:04:00 - Main Topic

01:18:15 - Outro / Next



Library Closed For Filing - Please Come Back Tomorrow



Michael’s Blog - Holland Imaginarium



“Conversations (feat. Wesley Mead)” by Azura (2017)

“The X-Files Theme” by The Dust Brothers, X-Files: The Album (1998)



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