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Episode 36 - Family / Fool for Love (feat. Michael Holland)


I’m a bad podcaster, but I’m a good man. I’m just so into this Buffy the Vampire Slayer rewatch lately that I decided to get really sick just as we start getting into the episodes that deal with Joyce getting really sick. Fortunately I SEEM to have rounded a corner, and with luck (and maybe a little bit of magic?) this silly little podcast will now get back on some kind of regular track.


That track begins with the triumphant return of Michael Holland, Manager of Television for Warner Bros. Post Production Creative Services, who joins me for a very special episode. We kick off with 506, “Family,” where we talk about the way patriarchal systems dehumanize women and how the Jossian found family narrative is perhaps the most profound and moving aspect of anything set in the Whedonverse. And with 507, “Fool for Love,” we reach what is arguably, for me personally, the high water mark of the series. I know, there’s still a lot of great stuff coming up. But...well let’s just say I’m a Spike fan, and I kinda sorta like what this episodes does for the character. (WARNING: We talk about Spike, like, a LOT.)


Next: I have so much fun talking with Michael Holland that I’m not letting him leave. He rejoins me next week to find out if episodes 508, “Shadow” and 509, “Listening to Fear” can possibly live up to the wonders we witnessed this week.



Run Time: 01:32:26

00:00:55 - Intro / Apologies / Guest

00:05:11 - Family

00:37:03 - Fool for Love

01:26:38 - Outro / Next



Library Closed For Filing - Please Come Back Tomorrow



Michael’s Blog - Holland Imaginarium



“Conversations (feat. Wesley Mead)” by Azura (2017)

“I Can’t Take My Eyes Off You” by Melanie Doane, Adam’s Rib (1999)



Whedon Studies Association is a non-profit academic organization devoted to the study of the works of Joss Whedon and his associates. They put out Slayage: The Journal of Whedon Studies, and Watcher Junior​: The Undergraduate Journal of Whedon Studies, both blind peer-reviewed twice-yearly online publications. They also host the biennial Slayage Conference on the Whedonverses, which brings all these incredible scholars together to present papers, discuss ways of incorporating Whedon Studies in education, and basically just geek out together.

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